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John Nagle
Post subject: Every machine in the world using Windows Automatic Update re  PostPosted: Jan 11, 2006 - 05:06 PM
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Last night, Microsoft rebooted the world's PCs. The
fix for the "WMA flaw" was distributed via Windows Update
in a very aggressive manner. Normally, only PCs set for
automatic reboot on update are rebooted remotely.
But this time, Microsoft forced a reboot on all PCs,
even ones set to reboot only on administrator request.

Ref: http://www.emailbattles.com/archive/battles/vuln_aacfhddccc_de

Something to consider when using Windows for embedded
systems.

Did anyone's real-time system go down last night because
of this?

John Nagle
 
   
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Chris Herborth
Post subject: Re: Every machine in the world using Windows Automatic Updat  PostPosted: Jan 11, 2006 - 06:05 PM
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John Nagle wrote:
Quote:
Did anyone's real-time system go down last night because
of this?

None of my desktop systems (3) did... but I'm a small sample set.

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Mario Charest
Post subject: Re: Every machine in the world using Windows Automatic Updat  PostPosted: Jan 11, 2006 - 06:17 PM
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"Chris Herborth" <cherborth@qnx.com> wrote in message
news:dq3h1k$mh7$1@inn.qnx.com...
Quote:
John Nagle wrote:
Did anyone's real-time system go down last night because
of this?

None of my desktop systems (3) did... but I'm a small sample set.

Mine didn't either ( I have 3 also )

Anybody that uses XP for critical system should know to turn off the
automatic update server (amongst other thing). If they don't, IMHO
Microsoft is not to blame.


Quote:

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Chris Herborth (cherborth@qnx.com) - Senior Zombiologist and Tech Writer
Never send a monster to do the work of an evil scientist.
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Kevin N
Post subject: Re: Every machine in the world using Windows Automatic Updat  PostPosted: Jan 11, 2006 - 07:30 PM
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Mario Charest wrote:
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"Chris Herborth" <cherborth@qnx.com> wrote in message
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John Nagle wrote:

Did anyone's real-time system go down last night because
of this?

None of my desktop systems (3) did... but I'm a small sample set.


Mine didn't either ( I have 3 also )

Anybody that uses XP for critical system should know to turn off the
automatic update server (amongst other thing). If they don't, IMHO
Microsoft is not to blame.

Ahh, but that's the trick. Some people are reporting that their systems updated
and reset even though they had auto-update turned *off*.

My PC running XP reset on its own last night. I thought it had just spuriously
reset, but now I'm wondering if it was this update. I have it set to download
updates, but not install them until I tell it to do so.

Kevin
 
   
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John Nagle
Post subject: Re: Every machine in the world using Windows Automatic Updat  PostPosted: Jan 11, 2006 - 09:30 PM
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Kevin N wrote:
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Mario Charest wrote:

"Chris Herborth" <cherborth@qnx.com> wrote in message
news:dq3h1k$mh7$1@inn.qnx.com...

John Nagle wrote:

Did anyone's real-time system go down last night because
of this?


None of my desktop systems (3) did... but I'm a small sample set.



Mine didn't either ( I have 3 also )

Anybody that uses XP for critical system should know to turn off the
automatic update server (amongst other thing). If they don't, IMHO
Microsoft is not to blame.


Ahh, but that's the trick. Some people are reporting that their systems
updated and reset even though they had auto-update turned *off*.

My PC running XP reset on its own last night. I thought it had just
spuriously reset, but now I'm wondering if it was this update. I have it
set to download updates, but not install them until I tell it to do so.

Kevin

Right. That's the killer setting - download but don't install
until told. Apparently Microsoft can override that remotely,
and just did.

John Nagle
 
   
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