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Re: How many long time QNX users are still around

Postby Bert Menkveld » Wed May 31, 2006 12:00 pm

"Ken Schumm" <kwschumm@qsolv.com> wrote in message
news:e54pdt$ldp$1@inn.qnx.com...
Just curious. I've been using QNX since version 1.1 in the early 80's and
have seen big changes in the QSSL since that time. Lots of prolific QNX
users from the past seem to have moved on as the market changed and QNX
moved upscale.

I can only claim to go back about 14 years, when I started at Corman
Technologies, first developing X.25 software for QNX 2, then for QNX 4, and
later network drivers for QNX 4. When Corman closed up shop a couple of
years ago, I thought I was done with QNX, but then I got talked into buying
out Corman's QNX networking business, which is still carrying on, despite
QNX's market shift.

It seems once you've been infected with the QNX bug, it's hard to get it out
of your system....

--
Bert Menkveld
P. Eng.
B&E Technologies
bert@betech.biz
Ph: 519-669-0950
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If you like QNX, take a look at Xen

Postby John Nagle » Thu Jun 01, 2006 4:00 am

Xen, the open-source hypervisor for x86 hardware, is an interesting
direction for QNX people. While it solves a different problem
than QNX does, it has a roughly similar architecture - a
very minimal kernel, user-level device drivers, and good
interprocess communication. Now that there's hypervisor hardware
for x86, the horrors of VMware are no longer necessary, and
a clean hypervisor is possible. Now it's been done. Worth
a look if you need a career change and don't want to worship
either Redmond or the penguin.

John Nagle
John Nagle
 

Re: If you like QNX, take a look at Xen

Postby Mario Charest » Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:57 am

"John Nagle" <nagle@overbot.com> wrote in message
news:e5lokh$73c$1@inn.qnx.com...

the horrors of VMware are no longer necessary

Anybody very tell you, you have quite an aura of positivisim ?
Mario Charest
 

Re: How many long time QNX users are still around

Postby Warren Deitch » Sun Jun 04, 2006 5:12 am

I have been using QNX since 2(3).03 - very quickly moved to 4.xx then
6.00 mid 2000 and on from there. Although it was a long way to travel
(from Australia) - I still attended nearly every QNX conference.
Warren Deitch
 

Re: How many long time QNX users are still around

Postby Robert Rutherford » Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:53 am

I guess I should pipe up as well. I started with 2.15 in 1990 and have
migrated through 4 and 6 with three different companies in the broadcast
television space. I also attended 3 (4?) of the Conferences. We are "lucky"
in that there is a lot of anti-M$ sentiment in the broadcast industry (at
least as far as use in mission-critical systems).

I agree that it is disappointing that QNX has more-or-less abandoned the
"community" that used to provide an active and passionate source of
advocacy and support. While I understand that commercially QNX/Harman is
wise to focus on narrow markets like automotive, it definitely feels like
we are the last guys left waving the flag while everyone else is marching
in the opposite direction.

Rob Rutherford
Robert Rutherford
 

Re: How many long time QNX users are still around

Postby Miguel Simon » Tue Jun 06, 2006 5:23 am

Hi Ken...

QNX is still the best embedded OS that I have come across. I have used
and worked with QNX since 1996 with QNX 4.2x. Now we work with 6.3.0,
and still amazed that the powers that be have kept our development under
QNX all these years. We use QNX in a number of advanced projects very
successfully.

On the not so positive side, it has been my personal experience that
some experienced QNX users/developers are very jealous and seem to get
offended at times, react and put users down when they try to help
others. Do not understand why this happens, but the end result is that
some users simply disappear to avoid the barrage... Lamentably, the
motivation to share and help goes way down in some cases (I know of a
couple of rather capable folks that are in this situation).

Regards...

Miguel.


Ken Schumm wrote:
Just curious. I've been using QNX since version 1.1 in the early 80's and
have seen big changes in the QSSL since that time. Lots of prolific QNX
users from the past seem to have moved on as the market changed and QNX
moved upscale.

Miguel Simon
 

Re: How many long time QNX users are still around

Postby Kevin Stallard » Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:37 pm

*Kevin waves*

"Ken Schumm" <kwschumm@qsolv.com> wrote in message
news:e54pdt$ldp$1@inn.qnx.com...
Just curious. I've been using QNX since version 1.1 in the early 80's and
have seen big changes in the QSSL since that time. Lots of prolific QNX
users from the past seem to have moved on as the market changed and QNX
moved upscale.

Kevin Stallard
 

Re: How many long time QNX users are still around

Postby kwschumm » Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:41 am

"Miguel Simon" <simon@ou.edu> wrote in message
news:e633g8$8fi$1@inn.qnx.com...
Hi Ken...

[...]

On the not so positive side, it has been my personal experience that
some experienced QNX users/developers are very jealous and seem to get
offended at times, react and put users down when they try to help
others. Do not understand why this happens, but the end result is that
some users simply disappear to avoid the barrage... Lamentably, the
motivation to share and help goes way down in some cases (I know of a
couple of rather capable folks that are in this situation).

That seems to be the nature of the net. People who are perfectly pleasant in
person sometimes take out their inner rage on others.

It's a shame that the QNX user community, which used to be so prolific, has
disappeared. Wouldn't most companies place a high value on that type of
evangelism? I certainly miss all the friends and acquaintances made at the
QNX conferences over the years. However, it's good to see a number of
recognizable names are still around.
kwschumm
Senior Member
 
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RE: Re: How many long time QNX users are still around

Postby maschoen » Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:13 pm

Hey Ken, I'm still hanging in there.
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Re: Re: How many long time QNX users are still around

Postby kwschumm » Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:34 pm

"maschoen" <maschoen@pobox-dot-com.no-spam.invalid> wrote in message
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Hey Ken, I'm still hanging in there.

Hey, Mitchell, good to hear from you! I heard through the grapevine that you
had changed careers. Hope all is going well for you.
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Re: Re: How many long time QNX users are still around

Postby maschoen » Fri Jun 09, 2006 6:09 pm

kwschumm wrote:Hey, Mitchell, good to hear from you! I heard through the grapevine that you
had changed careers. Hope all is going well for you.


Ken, New career didn't work out as well as I had hoped. I do have a new degree, and lots of teaching experience, but not much else.
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Re: How many long time QNX users are still around

Postby bilcar » Sat Jun 10, 2006 3:19 pm

I too have made many friends through the QNX community over the last 19
years.

I do feel that most of the people that have left the community left because
there just aren't many companies advertising that they are using QNX.
Companies have gone out of business, new development is at an all time low.
So when you go to look for your next job, you go to where the jobs are.

BTW, I don't believe that all those companies are no longer using QNX. They
just aren't public about their use of QNX.


"Ken Schumm" <kwschumm@qsolv.com> wrote in message
news:e65hrg$saq$1@inn.qnx.com...
"Miguel Simon" <simon@ou.edu> wrote in message
news:e633g8$8fi$1@inn.qnx.com...
Hi Ken...

[...]

On the not so positive side, it has been my personal experience that
some experienced QNX users/developers are very jealous and seem to get
offended at times, react and put users down when they try to help
others. Do not understand why this happens, but the end result is that
some users simply disappear to avoid the barrage... Lamentably, the
motivation to share and help goes way down in some cases (I know of a
couple of rather capable folks that are in this situation).

That seems to be the nature of the net. People who are perfectly pleasant
in
person sometimes take out their inner rage on others.

It's a shame that the QNX user community, which used to be so prolific,
has
disappeared. Wouldn't most companies place a high value on that type of
evangelism? I certainly miss all the friends and acquaintances made at the
QNX conferences over the years. However, it's good to see a number of
recognizable names are still around.

bilcar
Senior Member
 
Posts: 573
Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2004 5:50 pm
Location: Crete, IL

Re: Re: How many long time QNX users are still around

Postby kwschumm » Sat Jun 10, 2006 3:30 pm

"maschoen" <maschoen@pobox-dot-com.no-spam.invalid> wrote in message
news:e6cjur$pn3$1@inn.qnx.com...
kwschummwrote:
Hey, Mitchell, good to hear from you! I heard through the grapevine
that you
had changed careers. Hope all is going well for you.

Ken, New career didn't work out as well as I had hoped. I do have a
new degree, and lots of teaching experience, but not much else.

That's a real shame (and surprising since in this area they claim to always
be looking for good teachers). I used to do QNX instruction for DKL and that
was fun so was thinking that teaching at night might be fun too. Maybe it's
more trouble than it's worth.
kwschumm
Senior Member
 
Posts: 306
Joined: Fri Sep 17, 2004 12:46 pm

Re: How many long time QNX users are still around

Postby Igor Kovalenko » Sat Jun 10, 2006 11:45 pm

There may be many users, but only a small fraction tends to be passionate
enough about it to create that sense of 'community'. Community only exists
so long as people are doing some community service. People do any work
either for money or out of passion. However people who are passionate tend
to be either very handy or very inconvinient for the vendor. At some point I
was brought up on a stage and [publicly] thanked for being passionate. At
another point I was [privately] advised to keep my mouth shut, write my own
OS and not interfere with someone else's commercial interests. And
threatened with a lawsuit. Which brings the point that passionate people are
better off being passionate about something that no single vendor controls.
Which is why Linux wins on passion (and Windows wins on money).

I guess in the end I am thankful for that advice. It did help to get the
passion under control and stop wasting my time.

"Bill Caroselli" <qtps@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:e6ensi$99g$1@inn.qnx.com...
I too have made many friends through the QNX community over the last 19
years.

I do feel that most of the people that have left the community left
because there just aren't many companies advertising that they are using
QNX. Companies have gone out of business, new development is at an all
time low. So when you go to look for your next job, you go to where the
jobs are.

BTW, I don't believe that all those companies are no longer using QNX.
They just aren't public about their use of QNX.


"Ken Schumm" <kwschumm@qsolv.com> wrote in message
news:e65hrg$saq$1@inn.qnx.com...

"Miguel Simon" <simon@ou.edu> wrote in message
news:e633g8$8fi$1@inn.qnx.com...
Hi Ken...

[...]

On the not so positive side, it has been my personal experience that
some experienced QNX users/developers are very jealous and seem to get
offended at times, react and put users down when they try to help
others. Do not understand why this happens, but the end result is that
some users simply disappear to avoid the barrage... Lamentably, the
motivation to share and help goes way down in some cases (I know of a
couple of rather capable folks that are in this situation).

That seems to be the nature of the net. People who are perfectly pleasant
in
person sometimes take out their inner rage on others.

It's a shame that the QNX user community, which used to be so prolific,
has
disappeared. Wouldn't most companies place a high value on that type of
evangelism? I certainly miss all the friends and acquaintances made at
the
QNX conferences over the years. However, it's good to see a number of
recognizable names are still around.



Igor Kovalenko
 

Re: How many long time QNX users are still around

Postby Mario Charest » Mon Jun 12, 2006 2:10 pm

"Miguel Simon" <simon@ou.edu> wrote in message
news:e633g8$8fi$1@inn.qnx.com...
Hi Ken...

QNX is still the best embedded OS that I have come across. I have used and
worked with QNX since 1996 with QNX 4.2x. Now we work with 6.3.0, and
still amazed that the powers that be have kept our development under QNX
all these years. We use QNX in a number of advanced projects very
successfully.

On the not so positive side, it has been my personal experience that some
experienced QNX users/developers are very jealous and seem to get offended
at times, react and put users down when they try to help others.

Hum funny, cause I get the impression you're talking about me. It is true
that some things are getting to me, maybe it's time to retire and let it be.

some users simply disappear to avoid the barrage... Lamentably, the
motivation to share and help goes way down in some cases (I know of a
couple of rather capable folks that are in this situation).

Regards...

Miguel.


Ken Schumm wrote:
Just curious. I've been using QNX since version 1.1 in the early 80's and
have seen big changes in the QSSL since that time. Lots of prolific QNX
users from the past seem to have moved on as the market changed and QNX
moved upscale.


Mario Charest
 

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